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August 27, 2018 9:00 am

When it comes to horse racing, it should be pretty simple to tell if the horse you backed won or lost.

But it’s not always the case…

Sometimes a stewards enquiry will be called after the race has been run and, depending on the circumstances, the race result can be altered. Wildly frustrating and annoying if you’ve just cheered home the race winner after backing it.

However.

Some online bookmakers operate on a first past post and double result basis meaning they’ll pay out, regardless of the enquiry, on the first horse over the line AND on the eventual winner if the result is altered.

First Past The Post & Double Result Bookies

BookieRatingTerms
BetvictorUK & Irish racing only, max payout £50k per day. Ante-post, forecast, tricast & special markets excluded.
William HillIncludes win singles/multiples & win part of e/w bets. Excludes all special markets & carrying wrong weight / jockey not weighing in.
BetfredUK & Irish racing, max payout £1 million. Excludes weight errors, forecast, tricast, ante-post. Applies to win and e/w singles.
CoralUK & Irish horse racing only. Includes single and multiple bets. Excludes ante-post, Grand National, weight errors, special/novelty markets & judges errors.
Paddy PowerUK & Irish horse racing only, max payout ranges by race class. Excludes Grand National, void races, in running bets, ante-post, wrong course, tote dividends, corrections & daily doubles.

What Is First Past The Post?

Traditionally, the results of a horse race are declared after the weigh in.

To explain this a little, all the horses in a race must carry the same amount of weight (excluding handicaps of course). This means that both the jockey and his equipment – including the saddle – are weighed before the race. This is called the weight out, and if the jockey and his equipment weigh less than expected then the difference is made up with a saddlebag full of thin lead weights that is attached to the saddle.

After the race, the jockey and equipment is weighed again to ensure that the correct weight was carried around the racetrack by the horse.

After everyone is weighed in, the race results become official. It is this point that things get weird, because the official result may not match what happened on the track. For example, a stewards enquiry may find that the horse that literally won the race – that was the first over the line, or “past the post,” impeded the progress of another horse during the race, for example by bumping them and throwing them off their stride or making a jump more difficult simply by their close proximity.

First Past The Post means the physical result of the race is upheld no matter what the official result is post weigh in.

Therefore, if you place your bet with a betting site that offers First Past The Post and you see them cross the line first, you don’t need to wait for the official result, you can go and collect your winnings right now.

What Is Double Result?

So if First Past The Post protects your money placed on the physical winner of the race, the Double Result protects the deserving winner.

To put that slightly abstract notion into an example. You have placed a bet on the horse Magnificent Brian to win this race, which he is doing up until the final jump. At this point, another horse, lets call him Sneaky Gary, goes across his racing line and bumps Magnificent Brian just before he jumps.

Brian manages to get over the jump and land but is thrown off his stride – Sneaky Gary streaks away to win the race as the First Past The Post.

After the weigh-in however, a steward’s enquiry determines that Sneaky Gary deliberately bumped and impeded Magnificent Brian, and if it wasn’t for this he would likely have won. The stewards declare the official winner to be Magnificent Brian, even though Sneaky Gary crossed the finish line first.

Again, if you have placed you bet on Magnificent Brian with a bookie that offers Double Chance on the winner, then you will also get paid out your full winnings.

Does This Protection Always Apply?

No it doesn’t – and even when it does, different betting companies will have different interpretations so it really does pay to read the all of the T&C’s before you place your bet.

Broadly speaking, there are a few situations where First Past and Double Result will not apply, and these are:

Horse disqualified for failing weigh in – As described above, the weigh in ensures that the jockey and his equipment weigh exactly what they are supposed to whilst going round the course, with any shortfall made up by that bag of lead weights. If the weigh in reveals the jockey and/or equipment is too light after the race – say if that bag of weights fell off the saddle – the horse is disqualified and no winnings will be paid out.

Horse disqualified for taking the wrong course – Ever followed your sat nav too closely and accidentally gone the wrong way up a one way street? This is similar! Race tracks are normally made up of lost of different routes which when combined add up to the total race distance. So there may come a point at lap two for example.

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Picture the scene, you’re in your local bookmaker shop and you are placing a bet on a horse race that’s about to come on live in the shop at any moment. You quickly place your bet which is a tip from one of these tipsters for horse racing you have found on a hot streak.

Bet365 First Past The Post

Soon after scribbling at the speed of light the horse’s name (lucky star), and your stake the meeting and the time and so on the race is about to go off.

The bets on and away the horses go, you watch intently as your horse seems to be traveling quite well as they come towards the end of the race. The commentator screams as they come towards the end of the race “and Lucky Star hits the front at the furlong pole and there is only one threat to him here comes Green Dreamer down the outside”.

It’s at this point that your horse Lucky Star bumps into Green Dreamer and your horse’s jockey has the whip in the wrong hand, for example, your horse rallies but doesn’t get back up due to the interference and poor jockeying from the rival horse.

The steward’s enquiry sirens play after the race and there is an intense wait to see what the stewards decide upon the race, The stewards decide that Green Dreamer was seriously impeded and would have won the race, so they amend the result to Green Dreamer as the winner and your horse is now second so you don’t get paid.

Or do you? Many bookmakers these days payout on a thing called the first past the post ruling, this means whatever horse finished first they will pay out on that horse as well as the amended result. Worth checking that your online bookmaker pays out on first past the post and amended result as this happens more often than you would imagine.

An example of a stewards enquiry

Below is a video of a stewards enquiry which shows what can happen to your horse if something happens during the race. Amended results due to stewards enquiries are rarer these days but they still happen but if your horse won due to the interference its wise to have a bookie that pays out on first past the post.

Bookmakers FPP (first past the post) Rules

Below I have compiled a number of popular bookmakers rules on first past the post, you may be shocked to find that one of the online bookmakers on this list does not pay out on first past the post.

William Hills First Past The Post Rules (they pay first past the post and amended result)

  1. If the result of a race is amended before the weigh-in, when the official result is declared, win single/multiple bets and the win part of each way single/multiple bets will be paid on both the official result and firstpast the post with the following exceptions: –
    • The Grand National ante post bets forecast or tricast bets void races a selection taking the wrong course a selection given as the winner in error by the judge a selection carrying the wrong weight a jockey failing to weigh-in Totepool bets favourite points markets distance markets bets placed on a two runner race special match bets novelty bets ‘Insurance’ markets ‘without the favourite’ markets ‘place only’ markets match bets.
  2. Firstpast the post is applicable to win single/multiple bets and the win part of each way single/multiple bets only. It is not applicable to placed horses that are demoted.
  3. Staking restrictions do not apply

Corals First Past The Post Rules (they pay first past the post and amended result)

19.1 DOUBLE RESULTS

Where we offer the ‘Double Result’ concession we will pay out on both the original WINNER and any subsequent alteration to the FIRST place only. Amendments to any other placing do not qualify for this concession. Payment will be made once:

  1. The official result from the racecourse following the weighed in signal is received and
  2. The ‘first past the post’ result, which is the immediate result after the race has been completed with any subsequent amendments, as a result of stewards’ enquiries or objections ignored.

19.1.1 Exceptions

The ‘Double Result’ concession will generally apply to all single and multiple bets at UK and Irish racecourses. However, only the official ‘weighed in’ result on the day will apply to the following:

  • Ante Post bets
  • Forecast and Tricast bets
  • Void races
  • Aintree Grand National
  • Selections which have taken the wrong course
  • Races where an incorrect ‘first past the post’ result has been announced in error by the judge
  • Selections carrying the wrong weight
  • Selections whose jockey failed to weigh in
  • Tote or Pari-Mutuel (PMU)bets
  • Winning Favourites and Distance betting markets
  • Betting ‘Without the Favourite’ markets.
  • On Course Markets

Ladbrokes First Past The Post Rules (they pay first past the post and amended result)

All bets placed on UK and Irish horse racing will be settled on First Past the Post AND the official result.

  • First Past the Post: The immediate result after the race has been completed (see Exceptions below)
  • Official Result: Announced at the “weigh-in” on the day, after any Steward’s Enquiries and/or objections have been considered. If a winner is disqualified after the official result is announced, the disqualification will not affect the settlement of bets.

Exceptions

The exceptions where First Past the Post does not apply and bets are only settled according to the official result are:

  • A selection taking the wrong course
  • A selection carrying the wrong weight or the jockey failing to weigh-in
  • Any Ante Post bet
  • A Forecast or Tricast bet
  • A void race
  • Any Tote/Pari-Mutuel bet
  • A selection given as the winner in error by the judge
  • A bet placed on a two-runner race or a special match bet
  • A bet placed in a “without the favourite” or any other special market
  • Aintree Grand National
  • Any bet placed at the rails on a racecourse
  • We pay FPP on UK & Irish racing ONLY – Horse racing bets placed on non-UK/Irish meetingsare settled on the official result declared by the racecourse judge and confirmed by the ‘Weighed-In’ announcement. If a winner is disqualified after the official result is announced, the disqualification will not affect the settlement of bets.

888 Sports First Past The Post Rules (they don’t pay first past the post)

  1. Settlements will be based upon the official result issued at the time of the ‘Weigh In’. Any changes after such result has been announced will not be taken into consideration.

Paddy Powers first past the post rules (they pay first past the post and amended result)

Double result

  • Double result is only applicable to horse racing in Ireland and the UK where an industry SP is returned.
  • Double result means if your horse is first past the post you get paid, however, should your horse be awarded the race or promoted to a place, as a result of a stewards enquiry or an objection which is announced before the ‘weigh in’ or ‘winner alright’, we will still pay you.
  • In a combined Horses bet, the bet remains a winner if a runner in a combined horses selection is first past the post and another horse is promoted to a winner. The bet is promoted to winner if the runner in a combined horses selection is promoted to winner where the first past the post was not in the combined horses selection.
  • We offer Double Result on Place Betting, Betting Without Favourite, Fallers Insurance, Combined Horses & all Insurebet Markets.
  • Double result does not apply to the following bets or circumstances:

    a. All ante-post bets.

    b. Bets which rely on Tote dividends ie. Jackpots, Placepots etc which are settled on the Rules of Racing.

    c. ‘Distance specials’ which are settled on a First Past the Post basis only.

    d. Any horse disqualified for taking the wrong course or for carrying an incorrect weight.

    e. Races which are declared void.

    f. Where there is an official correction to the result by the judge or SIS prior to the ‘weigh in’ and any races which are declared void before the ‘weigh in’ for which Rules of Racing will apply.

    g. All bets on horse racing outside of Ireland and the UK (which shall be settled on a Rules of Racing basis only).

    h. All bets on horse racing within Ireland and the UK where an industry SP is not returned in respect of the applicable race (such bets shall be settled on a Rules of Racing basis only).

    i. All bets placed on Betting in Running markets (which will be settled on a Rules of Racing basis only).

    j. Daily Doubles

    k. The Aintree Grand National

Bet365 First Past The Post

Boyle Sports first past the post rules (they pay first past the post and on amended results)

  • Any bet settled on a Double Result, ‘First Past the Post or ‘Rules of Racing’ basis (the definitions of which are contained in the following pages) in UK or Ireland is subject to a limit of:
  • UK – Classes 1 & 2 €500,000. UK – Classes 3 & 4 €250,000. UK – Classes 5 & 6 or lower €50,000. Ireland – all graded, group & listed races €500,000. Ireland – premier handicaps €250,000. Ireland – all other races not listed €50,000. Any bet in Ireland or the UK that includes a selection which is not covered in Full Service €50,000. Antepost bets €250,000.
  • Bets which include a selection for overseas racing covered in our Full Service are subject to a maximum payout of €100,000
  • Any bet which contains a selection running at an overseas meeting where race results are not covered in full service by SIS is subject to a maximum payout of €50,000
  • UK and Irish Placepots, UK Jackpots UK Quadpots; The maximum payment to any one customer in respect of any one day’s aggregate bets in each of the following categories is as follows: UK Placepots Irish Placepots bets €25,000, UK Jackpots €30,000 and UK Quadpots €10,000. The maximum payout to any one customer in respect of any one day’s Quadpots aggregate bets will be twice the total race-course Quadpots pool or twice the S.P. win or place accumulator whichever is the lesser. In the event of a “Carryover”, the maximum payout to any one customer who nominates all successful selections in the UK Jackpot or UK Placepots or Irish Placepot will be twice the S.P. win or place accumulator respectively, subject to a maximum limit of €30,000 for the Jackpot and €25,000 for the Placepots.

Betfair’s first past the post rules

Double Resulting

    • All bets placed on UK and Irish horse racing will be settled on First Past the Post AND the official result on the day. Any subsequent disqualification will not affect the settlement of bets.
    • This offer applies to winning single and multiple bets and the win part of Each-Way bets placed only.
    • Exceptions: The exceptions where First Past the Post does not apply and bets are only settled according to the official result are:
      • A selection taking the wrong course
      • A selection carrying the wrong weight or the jockey failing to weigh-in
      • Any bets placed at a Non UK/IRE race meetings
      • A Forecast or Tricast bet
      • A void race
      • Any Tote/Pari-Mutuel bet
      • A selection given as the winner in error by the judge

Betway’s first past the post rules (they pay both amended and first past the post)

All bets placed on UK and Irish horse racing will be settled based on First Past the Post (FPP) AND the official result.

1. First Past the Post: The immediate result after the race has been completed (Exceptions apply, please see relevant section below).

2. Official Result:College basketball odds today ncaab. Announced at the “weigh-in” on the day, after any Steward’s Enquiries and/or objections have been considered. If any changes are made to the result after the official result has been announced, there will be no change to the settlement of bets.

FPP Exceptions

1. This offer applies to winning single and multiple bets and the win part of Each-Way bets only.

2.Only bets on UK & Irish Horse Racing are eligible – Bets placed on non-UK/Irish Horse Racing meetings are settled on the result declared officially by the racecourse judge and confirmed by the ‘Weighed-In’ announcement. If any changes are made to the result after the official result has been announced, there will be no change to the settlement of bets.

3. FPP does not apply to any horse racing market other than race winner.

4. A selection carrying the wrong weight or the jockey failing to weigh-in

5. A selection taking the wrong course

6. Ante Post bets

7. Forecasts or Tricasts

8. Void race

9. A selection given as the winner in error by the judge

10. A bet placed on a two-runner race

It’s well worth asking your bookmaker if they pay out on first past the post and amended result as then you are giving yourself the best chances of avoiding race interferences affecting your winnings.

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